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Ethnic Groups Edit
[edit]For easy reading, under "Ethnic Groups", the "and" between reference notes 78 and 79 should be removed.Chantern15 (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Chantern15
- If nobody has an objection, I will make this edit. Feel free to revert.Chantern15 (talk) 11:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Chantern15
Antiamerican slant of "history" section
[edit]More than 80% of the "history" section here is devoted to United-States-military-related controversies and anti-American Okinawan movements, and the treatment is rather unbalanced. There is no mention at all of Japanese assimilationist and colonial policies, in fact the only discussion of any tensions with Japan is a single sentence that is mainly about... U.S. military bases. The Ryukyu independence movement is depicted as primarily anti-American. A U.S. activist's blog about his visit to a particularly affected village is cited to support a claim about what Okinawans in general believe - and the site doesn't even contain the claim.
The History of the Ryukyu Islands article has a far more reasonable treatment and the "history" section here ought to give weight to topics in about the same proportion as it does. 70.51.105.125 (talk) 21:01, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Gichin Funakoshi
[edit]That Gichin and his son GIGO be added to the list of famous Okinawan personalities. 68.148.188.22 (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Ghost word
[edit]I removed the following fragment.
- , [[Okinawan language|Okinawan]]: ''ʔUchinā-chin''<ref name=":0">{{Cite book|title=Okinawago jiten|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/47773506|publisher=Zaimushō Insatsukyoku|date=2001-03-30|language=ja|location=Tōkyō|isbn=4-17-149000-6|oclc=47773506|others=Kokuritsu Kokugo Kenkyūjo, 国立国語研究所|pages=549}}</ref>
It has been edited many times, and Shima383 (talk · contribs), aka Okonomiyaki39 (talk · contribs), is responsible for the latest state.[1]
- An abuse of citation. The Okinawa-go jiten (1963) has no such entry.
- It indeed seems to be a ghost word. See Fiza Kiyoshi's Uchināguchi sanka (2006), for example. The language activist published an Okinawan-Japanese parallel text, where the Okinawan part was extensively annotated with ruby to indicate Okinawan pronunciations. He never gave a ruby to 沖縄県, indicating that he treated it as a loan word from Standard Japanese.
- BTW, 県 is an interesting word. Standard Japanese /ke/ regularly corresponds to Shuri Okinawan /ki/, not /ci/. However, Shimabukuro Seibin listed an entry /ciɴcoo/ (県庁) as an obsolete term that was later replaced by /kiɴcoo/. This irregular correspondence can also be found in some other Sino-Japanese words. Hattori (2018:142-152)[1978] gave an extensive discussion. In short, this exception can be explained if we assume that the Sino-Japanese sound system was borrowed at an intermediate stage of Shuri Okinawan, where /ke/ and /ki/ remained distinct but were phonetically realized as [kᶤi] and [ⱪi], respectively.
--Nanshu (talk) 02:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC) Modified: 10:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, that was my fault. I got the word /cin/ from JLect, which I stopped using due to its unreliability. The Okinawa-go jiten citation was apparently added by Niomi13[2] in the middle of 2021. — Okonomiyaki39 (talk) 00:45, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
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