Talk:Children's literature
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Proposed merge of Board book into Children's literature
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was do not merge. There was, however, an consensus to merge Board book into Picture book. Dan Bloch (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
This sourceless is better served as paragraph in more established article. Coin945 (talk) 11:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but not this one. A board book is an object, not a kind of literature. I suggest Book#By physical format or Picture book, which already mentions board books. Robina Fox (talk) 17:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with the alternative target of Picture book for Board book; it could be put into its own section there. Klbrain (talk) 13:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'm fine with Picture book; strongly disagree with Children's literature. There's no good place to put it in this article. Dan Bloch (talk) 03:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Suggested split
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was not to split based on my understanding of WP:SIZERULE, which wasn't contested by any other editor. Dan Bloch (talk) 19:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
At more than 150kB, this article is too long, according to WP:SIZERULE, and should be split. I'd suggest lifting out the "Literary Criticism" section to make a new article, while writing a brief summary with a "Main" hatnote for here. Suggested title of the new article: Social issues in children's literature.
Other possible new articles would be on British children's literature and American children's literature, both overrepresented in this article's National traditions section. --- Robina Fox (talk) 21:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- If you're interested in making an article on American children's literature, you could consider, for a start, translating this article from the German Wikipedia: Amerikanische Kinder- und Jugendliteratur. You may need to add references (see: WP:Translating German Wikipedia and WP:CWW). --- Robina Fox (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- DeepL is an excellent free translator. --- Robina Fox (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing this as over 150kB. WP:SIZERULE specifies "readable prose size", and Page size from the Tools dropdown says "Prose size (text only): 69 kB (10976 words)". Dan Bloch (talk) 21:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Why No Edith Nesbit?
[edit]Now, of course I realize that there are thousands, and even MILLIONS, of works of children's literature Out There, and that it would be quite impossible to list them all. But, even so -- and having said that -- how on Earth do you have an article on Children's Literature, and never mention the name of Edith Nesbit so much as ONCE??? The Grand Rascal (talk) 16:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. Please add something. Rwood128 (talk) 17:14, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- What? So I watch someone knee-jerk revert me? Not likely; I've had more than enough of that with other articles. Let someone <i>else</i> have that aggravation for a change. The Grand Rascal (talk) 05:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Requirement of clarification to revise my contribution
[edit]@Danbloch Could you please clarify what appears as a copyright issue in my contribution concerning the topic of "the translation of children's literature"? I had added citations to the information I submitted. I would appreaciate if you could explain how I could have avoided the issue, then, I would gladly revise my contribution. Papyrus and Parchment (talk) 07:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- The added text appears to have been copy-pasted from its source. This violates copyright, even when citations are given. From WP:COPYPASTE, which discusses this in detail: "With the exceptions of short quotations from copyright text, and text copied from a free source without a copyright, text from other sources may not be copied into Wikipedia." Dan Bloch (talk) 20:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Danbloch I am grateful for your feedback. Although I have double-checked my contribution in terms of direct copying through softwares and been declared to have found no such case, I am most definitely considering these efforts to have produced a better contribution for the benefit of those interested in the topic of translation of children's literature. As I have mentioned, I have closely revised my contribution in terms of any copying issue and am currently submit it to reconsideration under the same title. Thank you! 88.255.55.90 (talk) 08:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
In many countries, it is popular to group these concepts (children's literature and young adult literature) under one topic, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11163999
We probably should have an article on this too... the topic exists in English literary studies: [1] Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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