Talk:Minuet
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Adapted from 1911 enc.
[edit]With an OCR error. 1/8 time would be stupid. Dictionary.com returns "A slow, stately pattern dance in 3/4 time for groups of couples, originating in 17th-century France."
the Oxford English Dictionary says "A slow, stately dance, in triple measure, for two dancers; derived from France in the latter part of the seventeenth century, and fashionable throughout the eighteenth." In other words, 3/4 since they didn't specify 3/8 or 3/16.
I thought that a minuet is in 6/8 time, but I haven't changed the entry in that regard. User:Wetman
- You're part right - the most familiar type of minuet (at least in classical music) is in the French style - it's slow and sgo fuck a goat in 3/8 or sometimes 6/8 (you sometimes get these at the end of Italian overtures). I'll tweak the article a bit to reflect this. --Camembert
- (Afterthought) - actually, I've feeling I've seen minuets by Rameau in 6/8 as well (which means maybe Lully wrote them that way also), but I could be imagining it. --Camembert
I need help
[edit]I need info on 'minuets' for my music project. does any one has any useful suggestions of what info i could use? Thanks! please help!
Help for music students
[edit]Given that this article is under "musical forms," I'd like to see more information useful to students in music classes who have been assigned the homework of writing a minuet and are wrestling with the form. I.e., |I V||V I| structure, etc. Maybe once I figure out what I'm doing, I'll work on something like that.
Minuet, from Star Trek
[edit]Once the Star Trek character has her own article, the paragraph in this article can be shortened to the bare minimum necessary for disambiguation. ShutterBugTrekker 19:41, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Structure
[edit]While sort of rewriting this article, I decided to give it a chronological structure, rather than separating history and form as it was before. I'm not sure if this was a wise choice, so comments are welcome, I guess. EldKatt (Talk) 17:54, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Removed reference to Nintendo 64 song
[edit]Folks, I have again removed 24.242.31.37's reference to the Nintendo 64's song Minuet of the Forest. This tune was not even a minuet IIRC, was certainly not notable, and does not add any information to the article. Oscar 01:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Original Four?
[edit]Does anybody have a source other than this website http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3minuet.htm
That
- Originally there were only four Minuets,
- The Queen's Minuet or Le Minuet de la Reine,
- Le Minuet de Dauphin,
- Le Minuet d'Exaudet,
- Le Minuet de la Cour - (still popular today in certain circles). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vonfraginoff (talk • contribs) 10:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Inline citations
[edit]User:Feline Hymnic has requested a discussion on this page of changes recently made to the inline citation style established for this article on 6 March 2009 in this edit. The reason given for altering the established citation style is that several non-conforming citations had recently been added, and now outnumbered the parenthetical inline citations already in place. This is contrary to Wikipedia:Citing sources, which states specifically: "If an article already has citations, adopt the method in use or seek consensus on the talk page before changing it." It says nothing about "votes" accumulated by subsequent non-conforming citations. It appears to me in addition that Feline Hymnic may be confusing inline citations with footnotes. Once again referring to "WP:Citing sources": "Two styles of inline citation are commonly used on Wikipedia: clickable footnotes (<ref> tags, as above) and parenthetical references. The latter would involve adding (Smith 2011, p. 1) in round brackets within the sentence, while the former would include the same citation in a footnote". I submit that there is no justification for changing the established reference style, and my correction should therefore be restored.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Lully and the Trio
[edit]Can cite the Grove article "Trio" for the Lully bit. 157.178.2.1 (talk) 18:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion, but I find no mention at all of the minuet (or of Lully's use of trio texture to alternate with the main section of dances) in the New Grove/2 article "Trio" article by McClymonds, et al. Are you possibly referring to an earlier edition of Grove?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Redirect and/or disambiguation please
[edit]I apologise, I have not yet learnt how to set up redirect and disambiguation. Why is one needed? Many composers did not use the term minuet, in my present short digital library I have minuetto, menuet, menuette, menuetto. If I search wikipedia for these I will be directed to pages on J.S. Bach, &c., but not to the page that tells me about the classical music form known in English as minuet. If I was looking at one of the wiki-pages on Bach, and saw menuette and did not know what that was, I would not at present be able to find out through wikipedia. Redirection and disambiguation would be a good thingBrunswicknic (talk) 11:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- To start with, let us be clear that "redirects" and "disambiguations" are more or less opposite categories. A disambiguation page lists two or more different senses for one and the same word. Set is a good example. What you are asking for are redirects, and I am a little puzzled that you mention minuetto, menuet, and menuetto, all three of which currently redirect to this article. "Menuette", on the other hand, is a much less-often encountered variant Fench spelling, and does not currently have a redirect. Perhaps it should. May I ask, in what way are you being redirected to "pages on J.S. Bach, &c."? When I type in any of these terms (except for the rare French variant), I am taken directly to this article. What happens in your case? In general, to learn about reditects and how to create them, see Wikipedia:Redirect.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:43, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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