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Copied from votes for deletion

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I removed this early due to lack of consensus. Theresa Knott (Nate the Stork) 22:25, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) To be deleted for the same reason as Horizons: Empires of Istaria above (VfD entry added by Chmod007). Actually, the whole MMORPG section could use a clean-up. (I'd fix this entry if I could find what's wrong with it) -- Claw 02:45, 1 Sep (UTC)

  • Keep. Is notable, and just needs massive cleanup. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 00:55, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is not VfD material. Especially not for the reason given (and what's this about not knowing what's wrong with it!?). The anonymous user who posted this seems to have a personal vendetta with the MMORPG genre, and VfD is not the way to act it out. Clean-up in the Wikipedia sense means editing, not deleting. And that is exactly what this and many other MMORPG articles need. Also, please create an account if you expect to be taken seriously on VfD. — David Remahl 00:56, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. As stated above, this is not justification for deletion. There are reviews of other games on Wikipedia that are way more biased and really after looking at this one, and actually adding to it today, does not warrant VfD.
  • Keep, as notable as thousands of other computer games, albums, books and movies with Wikipedia articles. Does need some cleanup and NPOV'ing (I dispute the "unique to Asheron's Call 2" claims), but certainly not a candidate for deletion. —Stormie 05:13, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep This game is very notable. The hype it built from the original Asheron's Call made many many gamers buy the game. Additionally, it should be noted that Microsoft took the time to advertise this product. Personally, I think was Microsoft's MMORPG flagship project (before Turbine took it over), but that's just me. Although AC (Asheron's Call) wasn't as popular as EQ (Everquest) or UO (Ultima Online), I should think this is worthly enough to keep as an article. -- Allyunion 10:27, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, of course. Davodd 11:47, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup, NPOV

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I removed the {{cleanup}} {{POV check}} templates from the article because there was no mention of what in this article needs cleaning up and NPOVing. The article needs work but it's not in a terrible state that needs fixing. If you feel that those templates belong here, list your reasons so the problems can be addressed and the tags removed once fixed. --Mrwojo 22:05, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Tense Change

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I reworked the tense of the main body text, changing it from present tense to past tense, given that AC2 is no longer in service. I tried to keep information intact, but some lines (e.g. "there will be a patch that addresses X) did not make the cut. Still, I think 98% of the info is unaffected by the change. I welcome anyone to compare the two pages and adjust any area you feel did not translate smoothly.

I do not think this item should be removed, as it provides a nice, in-depth look at the workings of a game that is no more. Doggie Yum Yums 12:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception

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I have removed almost all of this section, per WP:V policy. "Player opinion" isn't acceptable unless it has been reported through a reliable source first. Section needs expanding, citing professional reviews such as [1]. Marasmusine (talk) 10:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC) its game play was unique and exciting —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.186.177.166 (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved as requested. I also noted that the external links provided in the article also use the full title. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:37, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Asheron's Call 2 → Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings – Relisted. Favonian (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC) There is no reason as to why this title should be shortened, as it should be denoted by its proper title, as well as the fact that it isn't an especially long title that could compromise the integrity of its encyclopedic form. DarthBotto talk•cont 21:18, 01 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there is an appalling lack of "official" documentation, caused by the fact that game no longer exists (which the article somehow fails to explain outside of a passing mention in the lede). The article seems to discuss the original AC2, Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings as well as its expansion, Asheron's Call 2: Legions. I am not sure of the naming policy when it comes to games with multiple expansions. Salvidrim! 19:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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