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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.
Filtered versions of the page are available at
Information on the process[edit]
What may be nominated for deletion here:
- Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText: and the various Talk: namespaces
- Userboxes (regardless of namespace)
- Pages in the File namespace that have a local description page but no local file (if there is a local file, Wikipedia:Files for discussion is the right venue)
- Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.
Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.
Before nominating a page for deletion[edit]
Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:
Deleting pages in your own userspace |
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Deleting pages in other people's userspace |
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Policies, guidelines and process pages |
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WikiProjects and their subpages |
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Please familiarize yourself with the following policies[edit]
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus
- Wikipedia:Deletion process – our guidelines on how to list anything for deletion
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – a how-to guide whose protocols on discussion format and shorthands also apply here
- Wikipedia:Project namespace – our guidelines on "Wikipedia" namespace pages
- Wikipedia:User page – our guidelines on user pages and user subpages
- Wikipedia:Userboxes – our guideline on userboxes
How to list pages for deletion[edit]
Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:
Instructions on listing pages for deletion:
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To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted) Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.
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Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.
Archived discussions[edit]
A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.
Current discussions[edit]
- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
July 16, 2024[edit]
User:TheRealJackMarshall[edit]
WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Wikipedia is not a web host for your fantasy reality game shows. -- Whpq (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. The user has the wrong ratio of mainspace to userspace edits. The user has blanked the NOTWEBHOST content, which is a good sign. Ideally, someone would have approached the user before MfD-ing their pages. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now as there is no content in the pages. A WP:G7 could be warranted if the user requests it. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - User blanked, No valid reason for deletion. –Davey2010Talk 20:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
User:TheRealJackMarshall/sandbox[edit]
WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Wikipedia is not a web host for your fantasy reality game shows. -- Whpq (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The user has blanked the page. Good. A statement from the user would be nice. Maybe they never knew? SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now as there is no content on the pages - maybe a WP:G7 would be warranted. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 05:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- The user can WP:G7 or WP:U1 at any time. Better to see the user self manage. SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - User blanked, No valid reason for deletion. –Davey2010Talk 20:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
July 15, 2024[edit]
Draft:2029 in American television[edit]
Yes, this is a draft, and while things don't have to be perfect, a 5 year crystal ball is pushing it. Q T C 23:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
See Also:
- Draft:2026 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Draft:2027 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Draft:2028 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Keep: Per WP:NDRAFT. Do not pump junk through mfd. draftspace exists to contain the junk elsewhere. SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I think that User:SmokeyJoe means not to pump junk from draft space through MFD. Junk in other namespaces, such as portal space or project space, should be sent here. Crystal ball drafts that are submitted for review should be declined. If they are moved into article space, they should be sent to AFD. In draft space, we ignore a lot of junk because it is a dustbin. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Do not pump junk drafts through MfD.
- These pages do not actually fail WP:CRYSTAL, they don’t document future events, they are empty tables, templates. SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - No valid reason has been presented for deletion, Also why are we sending drafts here ?, they're not in articlespace so why care?, Guess some have too much time on their hands. –Davey2010Talk 20:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Portal:Billy Murray (singer)[edit]
No useful content Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this portal, without prejudice, but with a large fish to the nominator:
- The nominator's statement that there is
No useful content
is true but misleading, either deliberately misleading or bizarre. The nominator blanked the portal, removing a link to the lead article, Billy Murray (singer), immediately before nominating the portal for deletion. They were therefore technically in compliance with the {{MFD}} tag, which saysdo not blank, merge, or move it, or remove this notice
. So the nominator first blanked the portal, which removed useful content, and then nominated the portal for deletion. - My first thought, on seeing that the portal had originally had a lead article and nothing else, had been to !vote Neutral and give the originator six days to complete an unfinished portal. I was assuming that the originator was a good-faith editor, and might be planning to create a portal. I now see that the originator is not a good-faith editor, but has been blocked for vandalism, and so will not be finishing the portal, but probably either was never planning to finish it, or was planning to display hoax content.
- I am very skeptical of portals, but as long as Wikipedia supports them, we should consider them on a case-by-case basis at MFD.
- If another good-faith editor wants to create a portal, they should be allowed to do so, subject to another MFD, but not to speey deletion.
- The nominator's statement that there is
Robert McClenon (talk) 23:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Ambasing[edit]
While Ambasing is a real place, this page is mostly vandalism. The demographics section appears to be real, but is taken entirely from another page (I can't post a link to it because of the spam blacklist), word-for-word. Tymewalk (talk) 05:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The page is not a genuine draft. The content is not a good faith contribution to Wikipedia. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Vandalism obviously has no place on the English Wikipedia. –Davey2010Talk 20:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
July 14, 2024[edit]
Draft:Nations Unbound Great Cyber War[edit]
Blatant WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 15:09, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - As the nominator says, a web hosting violation. I disagree with the G3 nomination, but only slightly. This isn't an obvious U5 only because the originator hasn't had much time to do anything else. But using Wikipedia for web hosting for an account of some silly cyberbattle is not permitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I nominated for G3, but this is just Discord drama and has no place on Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 19:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Moldovan userbox templates[edit]
- Template:User mo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User mo-0 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User mo-1 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User mo-2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User mo-3 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User mo-4 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete userboxes. ISO 639 code for Moldovan, mo, has been deprecated. (https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php) --Lucjim (talk) 21:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. So, some language codes for the Moldovan language have been deprecated. Redirect past usage to what should be used going forwards, don’t just delete the old, but valid, usage. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. It does not matter that the ISO 639 code for Moldovan was deprecated. The code can be deprecated and the userboxes can stay as they are.—Alalch E. 10:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
July 12, 2024[edit]
Talk:Khaled Mashal/Third intifada[edit]
The content of this page was merged here in 2007 after an AfD was closed with disposition to merge the content into Khaled Mashal (mentioned on the talk page here). Unless it was later removed (I haven't checked super thoroughly), that doesn't seem to have ever actually happened. But especially looking at this 17 years later, I'm not sure there's anything worth merging in here. The arguments for this were basically already made in the AfD. And if no one's actually ever going to merge this content, this page has no reason to exist. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 19:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 19:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This isn't exactly G4, but it is essentially a draft for consideration after the merge. As a draft, it is an expired draft. To the extent that it is something else, it is not something else that needs to be kept. (Events have changed so much for the worse in the region.) Robert McClenon (talk) 19:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The nom misstates the facts. A move to a talk subpage is not a merge. The AfD was closed as “merge” which is not a “delete” and cannot be used here to delete. If consensus has changed from “merge”, then archive, eg by redirection to the article. Also note that there are no time limits, if anything the AfD close was wrong. I note the closer is eight years inactive. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
July 9, 2024[edit]
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Msalauddind89/sandbox |
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC) User:Msalauddind89/sandbox[edit]Unattributed copy of Ahmed Sofa. Created over three years ago with no attempt to work on the content. ✗plicit 11:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973[edit]
- User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Appears to be a semi-complete and search-engine indexed version of a page that was recently deleted through MfD, which can be found at Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973-TEXT, from a user who has been CBANed for promotional content. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 22:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - The same reasoning that called for deletion of the complete dissertation also calls for deletion of this partial version of the dissertation. Also, now that the originator has been indefinitely blocked, any general leeway arguments no longer apply (regardless of whether one originally agreed with them). Robert McClenon (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Old business[edit]
Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 04:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC) ended today on 18 July 2024. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. Discussions that have already been closed will be removed from the page automatically by Legobot and need no further action. |
July 8, 2024[edit]
User:UBX/Juve Merda[edit]
This was nominated at the wrong venue (TFD). This is a procedural nomination on my part and I express no opinion on the merits. The original nominating statement is:
Offensive against Juventus Football Club, "merda" in Italian is a vulgar word equivalent to "shit"Qwerty 9706 (talk) 11:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note that, somewhat confusingly, Qwerty 9706 is the TfD nom. Nickps (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. I accidentally removed my own signature when I deleted excess copied material when I made the MFD nomoination -- Whpq (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I thought about telling you but it felt like splitting hairs, so I just added a note here. Nickps (talk) 18:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. I accidentally removed my own signature when I deleted excess copied material when I made the MFD nomoination -- Whpq (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Would renaming the template be a viable option? Something like "No Juve"? The Banner talk 21:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. We might want to ask @SignedInteger for an opinion on the name, since they are apparently the only person that uses this. Nickps (talk) 22:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I am aware of its name but admittedly I was searching for something more humorous because, as my page says: "Some of the contents of this user page are not meant to be taken seriously, but I'm sure you already knew that." I do think renaming it would work because I am only using it as a humorous userbox and not out of actual ill intent against Juventus or Juventus fans. SignedInteger (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also I noticed my page has this notice on it now: "This user page is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
- Please discuss the matter at this page's entry on the Miscellany for deletion page.
- You are welcome to edit this page, but please do not blank, merge, or move it, or remove this notice, while the discussion is in progress. For more information, see the
- Guide to deletion
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- I have no clue why this appeared and checking the edit history of my page shows nobody added it so I think it may be a bug. SignedInteger (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that appeared because of a mistake with tagging the userbox. It should be fixed now. Nickps (talk) 22:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I am aware of its name but admittedly I was searching for something more humorous because, as my page says: "Some of the contents of this user page are not meant to be taken seriously, but I'm sure you already knew that." I do think renaming it would work because I am only using it as a humorous userbox and not out of actual ill intent against Juventus or Juventus fans. SignedInteger (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. We might want to ask @SignedInteger for an opinion on the name, since they are apparently the only person that uses this. Nickps (talk) 22:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. No hate in userboxes.—Alalch E. 22:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why delete though? Can't that be resolved through rewording, like in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User hate CCP? Nickps (talk) 22:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll let someone else do the rewording, I'm sticking with 'delete'.—Alalch E. 22:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why delete though? Can't that be resolved through rewording, like in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User hate CCP? Nickps (talk) 22:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No hate in Userboxes. Don’t reword, just delete. A better userbox can be as easily made from scratch. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User hate CCP as well as per everyone above - The creators opinions should be respected - so it should be deleted/recreated with a new title and preferably with the word "hates" removed. –Davey2010Talk 20:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
July 7, 2024[edit]
Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonial Empires/Userbox/CEBASICBOX[edit]
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonial Empires/Userbox/CEBASICBOX (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism was redirected and is no longer a project or task force. Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- 13:15, 26 June 2024 Joe Roe talk contribs 60 bytes −3,268 ←Redirected page to Wikipedia:WikiProject History
- User:Joe Roe, why did you do that?
- I think the default action should be to redirect all subpages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism to Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism. That is, archive all subpages as redirects to the redirect. Is there a reason not to? SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- There was a consensus to do so at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Merge inactive history WikiProjects. Sorry, I forgot to add an edit summary. I've no objection to redirecting all the subpages. I retained some because the might be of historical interest and others because they have no incoming links anyway so it didn't seem worth the hassle. – Joe (talk) 11:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. By default, I think it’s better to preserve history of anything ever used, unless it should never have been created. However, if someone, especially someone from the WikiProject, has a rationale for deleting over archiving (history behind redirects), then I have no objection to deletion. I think wikiarchiology is a good thing to be allowed to happen, and that deletion requests should give at least lip service to why archiving is not a good idea. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per User:Joe Roe. Archive. SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. By default, I think it’s better to preserve history of anything ever used, unless it should never have been created. However, if someone, especially someone from the WikiProject, has a rationale for deleting over archiving (history behind redirects), then I have no objection to deletion. I think wikiarchiology is a good thing to be allowed to happen, and that deletion requests should give at least lip service to why archiving is not a good idea. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- There was a consensus to do so at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Merge inactive history WikiProjects. Sorry, I forgot to add an edit summary. I've no objection to redirecting all the subpages. I retained some because the might be of historical interest and others because they have no incoming links anyway so it didn't seem worth the hassle. – Joe (talk) 11:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for historical purposes. This userbox is displayed on the user pages of a few users who are no longer active and therefore unlikely to replace it now that the wikiproject no longer exists. Keeping it serves to preserve their user page as it was and to help anyone who happens to come across them find out where the former WikiProject Colonialism now resides (via the redirect to WikiProject History). – Joe (talk) 11:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note also the parallel discussions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 7#Category:WikiProject Colonialism participants (populated by this template), Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_7#Template:User_WP:AGS, Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_7#Template:User_WikiProject_Dacia, and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_7#Category:WikiProject_Dacia_participants. – Joe (talk) 09:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
July 5, 2024[edit]
Talk:2024 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs[edit]
- Talk:2024 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) ltbdl (talk) 01:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
This is in clear violation of Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tropical_cyclones/Archive_43#RFC:_ACE_Calcs; this is nothing but an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of info if it's not going to be used in the article. Also WP:NOTDATABASE, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Jasper Deng (talk) 22:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Contention 1: Talk:2023 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs still exists. Talk:2022 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs still exists.
- Contention 2: The discussion was closed by LightandDark2000 back in 2020, which reads:
Although there is some dispute as to how this should be done, it appears that the consensus is to use the figures from a trusted source. However, our ACE calculations can also be used as placeholders in lieu of more reliable figures.
- As far as I can tell, we.. never figured out how exactly we're supposed to go about this. (Not that I knew that this was a discussion that was had until today, but that's my own fault.) We as a WikiProject (myself included from time to time) continue to update the operational portion of 2024/ACE. I do not know entirely why. I do not know entirely how. At this point, not entirely sure what deleting 2024 would be worth unless we nuked... everything. ~ AC5230 talk 06:18, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ltbdl (talk) 01:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)