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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_October_3


October 3

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Comedy directors

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Nominator's rationale: While we're talking about directors versus actors, I feel the same principles as those outlined in WP:PERFCAT, and which resulted in the deletion of multiple "comedy actors" categories[1] may apply here. DonIago (talk) 14:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose American comedy film directors & British comedy film directors, which diffuse American film directors & British film directors, respectively.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If these need to go, then the parent Category:Comedy film directors (which you haven't tagged as part of this) also needs to go. I'm not wedded to the need for it, but there's absolutely no argument to be had that the parent is fine and only the subcategories are a problem: if it's fine, then subcategories for countries with a large enough number of entries are automatically fair game under it, and there can be absolutely no serious argument that only the subcategories are a problem if the parent isn't. There additionally can't be any serious argument that the US and the UK should get subcategories but Canada shouldn't, either — national subcategories aren't applied on any basis more refined or subjective than "has enough entries to support one", so there can't be a serious argument that American and British directors should get subcategories while Canadian ones shouldn't. So either we need to delete the parent category as well, or they all have to stay. Bearcat (talk) 14:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With all due respect, I don't see any suggestion here that I might have simply overlooked the existence of some categories that should be included here. You're welcome to add those in if you feel they should be part of the conversation. Please assume good faith. Do you have an argument other than, "Why are some categories included but related categories missing?" DonIago (talk) 14:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With all due respect, the non-inclusion of directly related categories that are subject to the same issues as the included categories is a relevant and germane point in a CFD discussion. There's simply no reason why these should all be deleted at the same time as the parent Category:Comedy film directors being kept — if the parent is acceptable, then national subcategories for countries with a large-enough number of entries for them are inherently acceptable as well, and if the national subcategories aren't warranted then the parent category isn't warranted either — and any person in any of these categories could simply be readded to the parent category at will by any editor at any time, which would inevitably be followed by these categories getting recreated because the parent category had become large enough to need diffusion into subcategories again (which is the reason why these even exist in the first place: because the parent category existed and needed diffusion). So my point stands, and I will brook no further clapback about it — it's not my job to add related categories to this discussion, it's your job to either add the related category or explain why you think it's different. Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How very collaborative of you. I'll add the additional categories shortly. DonIago (talk) 16:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American comedy actors

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Nominator's rationale: As per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Comedy actors, this is a WP:PERFCAT violation; actors shouldn't be categorized by the genre(s) in which they've appeared. DonIago (talk) 13:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Companies disestablished in 1788 by country

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Nominator's rationale: Empty (and parent cat has only one entry) — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 11:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British companies disestablished in 1788

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Nominator's rationale: empty with little chance of use — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 10:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Electorate of Württemberg

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Nominator's rationale: delete, the Electorate of Württemberg lasted only three years and none of the articles are specifically about the electorate except the eponymous article. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Music in Landskrona

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Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Vietnamese jazz

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Nominator's rationale: The subcategory in here is for jazz musicians who are Vietnamese, not musicians who play Vietnamese jazz (is there even such a thing?). StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 06:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Summer camps in fiction

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Nominator's rationale: Category #1: Single-entry category that conflicts with its parent category. Category #2: Redundant category layer that only has a single subcategory. Category #3: Category containing only a single article. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films directed by Caroline Labrèche

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Nominator's rationale: Two related categories for co-directors of the same film. Per longstanding consensus, a filmmaker has to have a biographical article about the person before they get a "Films directed by" category to batch their films together -- but neither of these two people have a biographical article at all, so these aren't both necessary for the same single film. Bearcat (talk) 00:21, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, it might have been different if there were e.g. five articles in this category, but then at the same time it would have been more likely there was an article about Caroline Labrèche and Steeve Léonard too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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