Talk:Barbara Olson
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[edit]She was discovered on polish-german border sometime after(unknown) , the direct links are dead however it is mentioned on renese.com , she was supposably arrested.
That means , there was no flight 77 that crashed into the pentagon, to my most logic sense it was a missile with phony aircraft pieces on.
People who oppose this facts, are either evil, don't care , are in shock and show overwhelming sympathy for the person which is cutting their ability to understand or probably in the conspiracy it self. For those that are simply close to those people , you would probably be very emotional in which you would oppose the "stupid" rumors , but let's be honest , I am sorry about those who died and those who apparently didn't too , but the evidence speaks for it self. Xowets (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
She was "supposably" [sic] arrested on the Polish-Austrian border, not the Polish-German border, and there is no Polish-Austrian border. See http://www.rense.com/general67/olsen.htm for discussion of this point. There used to be a Polish-Austrian border before World War One, but she was not yet born at the time. Therefore, she could not have been arrested there at any time, unless she went back in time and was arrested before her own birth. 71.109.159.196 (talk) 18:41, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- That's it - rather than being a terrorist attack, 9/11 was conveniently created to advance the illuminati's plot for continued world control by using their time travel technology. I've heard that Elvis was involved in the initial tests of this machine and that he was killed through force feeding him pb and fried banana sandwiches over several decades until he died of a heart attack (the cover story of drug overdose was part of a bigger conspiracy to discredit the AMA) to silence him some 34 years before the 9/11 plan was brought to fruition. All of the so called "victims" were transported back to the Titanic just after she struck an Illuminati engineered iceberg - the sudden increase in weight broke the ships back and was the real cause of her sinking, otherwise she would have survived. Unfortunately, Ms. Olson got inadvertantly caught in a time vortex that spun her off course, landing her on the Polish-German border. This temporal infraction is what led to her arrest there before the Great War (another fabrication of the Illuminati, it wasn't great and it wasn't even a war). Fortunately, most people don't have the "my most logic sense" to see through all of the smoke and mirrors involved. Now it can be revealed - don't forget you read it in Wiki so you know its true (actually this is more factually correct than some of the information in real Wiki articles). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.66.32 (talk) 00:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Truther Bias
[edit]Olson was a passenger on American Airlines Flight 77. . .when it was alledgedly flown into the Pentagon
- Deleted "alledgedly (sic) " —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.78.78 (talk) 20:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Olson was a passenger on American Airlines Flight 77 on her way to a taping of Politically Incorrect in Los Angeles, when it was allegedly flown into the Pentagon in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
Truther crap is back 70.190.32.185 (talk) 21:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- Citation-less truther garbage is still on the page. I'm removing it. 74.64.22.128 (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I also cited The Shadow Factory by James Bamford as a source for one of the paragraphs regarding her phone calls from the hijacked plane to her husband. I don't how to cite properly so whoever does should just correct it real quick. It's on page 90 of the book. 74.64.22.128 (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Links updated
[edit]There is a tribute to Barbara Olson at http://www.angelfire.com/va2/kksposter
- It's no longer accessible.
- He's correct.
- I'm getting an error message on that page.
- However, I've taken the liberty of adding some memorial tributes to the "external links" section at the bottom of this article.
Ruthfulbarbarity 05:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Telephone calls to husband
[edit]According to the released evidence from the U.S. District Court in Alexandria concerning the Moussaoui trial (see http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200054.html ) the phone call to her husband was 0 minutes i.e. she got no connection.
- After planes crashed into the WTC 8:46 a.m the entire mobile phone network suffered mulfunctions because of the sheer volume of mobile phone calls being made at the same time so it is possible that the system was down and did not record the duration of the calls. Mieciu K 21:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's possible.
- In any case, I don't believe that conspiracy theories relating to September 11th belong in this article-even if they focus specifically on Barbara Olson-although I suppose they could be added to the article related to 9/11 conspiracy theories.
- I'm glad that someone deleted that.
- Inserted "allegedly": "During the duration of the flight, she allegedly [3] called husband Theodore Olson who informed her of the crashes in New York." There is no definite evidence of this call; call records which should exist do not, there is no reason to believe that high call volumes would disable the call record system from recording anything, particularly just call durations, there is no evidence that this flight had airphone service, Ted Olsen's story changed repeatedly, tests of 2001-tech cell phones have consistently failed at lower altitudes and velocities. To fail to insert "allegedly" here disregards the balance of the evidence; to assert without qualification that the calls did or did not occur goes substantially beyond the available evidence. Anyone wishing to delete "allegedly" must come up with documentation clearly superior to the referenced article's references.Enon (talk) 03:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Ruthfulbarbarity 04:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The article says "About a minute into the conversation, the call was cut off." "About a minute" means that it could be less than a minute. If the call lasted between 1 and 59 seconds, would the cell phone records say 0 minutes or 1 minute?
Do records saying "the phone call to her husband was 0 minutes" actually mean "she got no connection" or just that the call lasted less than one minute? The statement in this discussion "the phone call to her husband was 0 minutes i.e. she got no connection." needs clarification. It could actually confirm, rather than refute, the article.71.109.159.196 (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I Have something to add, how did she not make a call if it was her conversation that was the only one describing terrorists with box cutters? look it up, her phone conversation is the only conversation that describes hijackers with box cutters, are you all implying that the terrorists never used box cutters as we were all told? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.190.158 (talk) 21:03, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Memorial lectures
[edit]This section mentions the inaugural lecture given by her husband, Theodore Olson and a link to the content of the lecture is provided. This makes reference is made to the phone calls she is alleged to have made during the hijacking, but as mentioned above it now appears that these calls did not take place. Should this topic be included in the main article?
Dean Armond (talk) 08:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I Have something to add, how did she not make a call if it was her conversation that was the only one describing terrorists with box cutters? look it up, her phone conversation is the only conversation that describes hijackers with box cutters, are you all implying that the terrorists never used box cutters as we were all told? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.190.158 (talk) 21:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Her name in 1991-1992 is shown incorrectly
[edit]The phrase "...in 1991-92, when Mrs. Olson..." makes no sense. Her name did not become Mrs. Olson until 1996. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.109.159.196 (talk) 18:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Spear of Titans is a really good story. You can find it on various searching engines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.160.106.100 (talk) 13:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
They Live!
[edit]According to the book "Thorn, Victor (Arkancided!!!), Guliani, Lisa Phantom Flight 93, And Other Astounding September 11 Mysteries Explored 2007", Barbara Olson was arrested at the border with Poland after her supposed death. 67.206.183.9 (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Uncited material in need of citations
[edit]I am moving the following material here until it can be properly supported with reliable, secondary citations, per WP:V, WP:CS, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, WP:BLP, WP:NOR, et al. This diff shows where it was in the article. Nightscream (talk) 14:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Early life
[edit]...and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Saint Thomas in Houston. She earned a Juris Doctor degree from the Yeshiva University Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law.[citation needed]
Career
[edit]As a newcomer, she achieved a surprising measure of success, working for HBO and Stacy Keach Productions.[when?] In the early 1990s, she worked as an associate at the Washington, D.C.-based law firm of Wilmer Cutler & Pickering where she did civil litigation for several years before becoming an Assistant U.S. Attorney.[citation needed]
Olson's support in 1991 of Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas led to the formation of the Independent Women's Forum. At that time, Olson and friend Rosalie (Ricky) Gaull Silberman started an informal network of women who supported the Thomas nomination to the Supreme Court despite allegations of sexual harassment by Anita Hill, a former subordinate of Thomas at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Olson, who had also worked under Thomas at the EEOC and was a close friend of Thomas, spoke out on his behalf during his contentious Senate confirmation hearings. Olson later helped edit The Real Anita Hill, a book by David Brock that savaged Hill and portrayed the harassment claim as a political dirty trick (Brock later recanted his claims and apologized to Hill). The Independent Women's Forum continued on with a goal of retaining a high profile group of women to advocate for economic and political freedom and personal responsibility.[citation needed]
In 1994, Olson became chief investigative counsel for the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. In that position, she led the Travelgate and Filegate investigations into the Clinton administration. She was later a partner in the Washington, D.C. office of the Birmingham, Alabama law firm Balch & Bingham.[citation needed]
Personal life
[edit]Theodore went on to successfully represent presidential candidate George W. Bush in the Supreme Court case of Bush v. Gore, and subsequently served as U.S. Solicitor General in the Bush administration.[citation needed]
She was a resident of Great Falls, Virginia.[citation needed]
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