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[edit]Where should this page be? At Gazi Husrev-beg or at Gazi-Husrev Beg? The text of the article disagrees with the title. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 15:25, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The last Bosnian capital of Jajce is conquered in 1525, as is the important city of Banja Luka in the Krajina region. The fortified towns of Greben, Sokol, Jezero, Vinac, Vrbaški Grad, Livač, Kamatin, Bočac, Udbina, Vrana, Modruč, and Požega all fell at the hands of Gazi-Husrev Beg.
Vrbaski grad is a suburb of Banja Luka not a town. Today known as Gornji Seher or by Serbs srpske toplice.
The final para of Biography
[edit]This para needs a serious re-write. In its present state it doesn't make much sense. Jodosma (talk) 01:09, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Bosnian
[edit]Was his father from the Sanjak of Bosnia or from the Sanjak of Herzegovina (when these in fact did not exist)? Was he or was he not a convert? Based on the fact that there was no Bosniak ethnic group at that time, and the facts represented — the designation of his father's origin should be clarified.--Zoupan 03:18, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- 1. You have not presented any facts. 2. Both of those two Bosnian administrative units existed at the time of his birth. His father, however, would have been born in the Kingdom of Bosnia or the semi-independent duchy of Herzegovina under the power of Bosnian nobleman Stjepan Vukcic Kosaca. 3. Herzegovinian Muslim = Bosnian Muslim = Bosniak. It denotes one and the same ethno-cultural group. Now, before and then. The fact that you as a Serb editor frequent articles not even slightly related to Serbs or Serbia hell-bent on undermining the existence of the ethnic group the Serbs antagonized in the recent war goes a long way to show your POV mind of state. I would raise the same warning flag if Bosniak or Croat editors were to start frequenting obscure Serb persona-related articles with edits that clearly question the Serbs as an ethnic group. Please note that you are playing at a dangerous precedent, since we all know the "Serb" nation was only formed in the 19th century, and referring to anyone as a "Serb" before this is the same kind of anachronism you voice your objection about here.The notion of ethnic groups changes over the centuries, and nations did not exist back then as they do now. Being a Serb, Croat or Bosnian/Bosniak then did not have the same connotations as it does today, and not just for Bosniaks (a name that stretches into the Middle Ages as Bosnjanin). Regardless, we do not apply Serb nationalist logics as to what Bosnia or the Bosniaks are and are not, or when they emerged or did not emerge. There is a Serbian language wikipedia for such purposes, where Bosniaks only emerged in 1993 out of thin air. As for his father being a convert, there is a reliable source invoked already. Feel free to verify it. Thank you and good bye. Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 23:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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