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August 29
[edit]Cite web error because URL contains spaces
[edit]Reference number 4 in Michael Horowitz (endocrinologist) (ref name="AO Media note") is reporting an error, and I can't see how to fix it. The error message says "Check |url= value". Clicking on the Help link, the problem seems to be that the URL contains blanks. But the actual URL does contain those blanks - when I paste that URL into a browser it works perfectly. So can any kind person let me know how I can fix the Ref to remove this error? Gronk Oz (talk) 01:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Gronk Oz: Try replacing the each of the spaces with %20 RudolfRed (talk) 01:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- See Percent-encoding RudolfRed (talk) 01:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I pasted the URL into a browser and then copying back into Wikipedia, which had the effect of replacing spaces with "%20". TSventon (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Done @RudolfRed:@TSventon: Thank you! I wish the Help for Cite Web had this simple work-around.--Gronk Oz (talk) 07:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I pasted the URL into a browser and then copying back into Wikipedia, which had the effect of replacing spaces with "%20". TSventon (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- See Percent-encoding RudolfRed (talk) 01:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
I am seeing inaccurate information.
[edit]I am seeing inaccurate information. PamelaHarrLud (talk) 07:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PamelaHarrLud: In order for anybody to help you, I think we will need more information. Which particular article, what is inaccurate, and ideally can you provide a reputable source with the correct information? Gronk Oz (talk) 07:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am no longer married to Sean Ludwick. That is the first thing. I am referred to as Spouse.
- Second, my sons are not relevant in this and I do not know why they are mentioned and they were NOT 11 and 13 at time of the accident. They were 8 and 11.
- There is hearsay in this entry and not fact, additionally.
- Who created this entry ? PamelaHarrLud (talk) 21:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does this have to do with Sean Ludwick? 331dot (talk) 08:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, this is the internet... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PamelaHarrLud: Please see Our FAQ for people mentioned on Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did you post this Wikipedia entry ? There is inaccurate information here. PamelaHarrLud (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PamelaHarrLud: No, I simply replied to your query here by providing you with a link to a page of useful advice. Please assume good faith in all your dealings with Wikipedia volunteers. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PamelaHarrLud: No, Pigsonthewing has never edited the article Sean Ludwick. You can check this for yourself by viewing Special:History/Sean Ludwick. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC)::It still says "he is married to Pamela Harrison Ludwick...."
- Why did you create this Wikipedia posting in the first place ? PamelaHarrLud (talk) 21:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- At the time you wrote your comment the article said that "he married" ... this is a fact, apparently conceded by yourself. The article was presumably written because the article subject has become notable because of his various actions. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- It currently says:
- Spouse Pamela Harrison Ludwick
- Why are his sons relevant to wikipedia entry ?
- Who was the first person to write this entry about Sean Ludwick ? PamelaHarrLud (talk) 22:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I personally removed the 'spouse' thing, so I know it's not currently there. The ages of 11 and 13 are apparently related to Paul Hansen's children, and this seems clear in context. Family, at least in terms of numeration, is probably a relevant matter. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. I do see that many sources are Daily mail. Is that source considered a news source ?
- Is there a way to understand who initially posted this entry ? PamelaHarrLud (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- As you've seen, the article was started by an IP address, and they appear to be in NYC, New York. I don't have any more information than what you can see, but I can point out that every edit made by Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00::/64 is probably the same user. In my personal experience, given the quantity of edits, if you're looking for some personal knowledge or connection, I'd think it's probably unlikely. HTH. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thank you again. PamelaHarrLud (talk) 00:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- As you've seen, the article was started by an IP address, and they appear to be in NYC, New York. I don't have any more information than what you can see, but I can point out that every edit made by Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00::/64 is probably the same user. In my personal experience, given the quantity of edits, if you're looking for some personal knowledge or connection, I'd think it's probably unlikely. HTH. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I personally removed the 'spouse' thing, so I know it's not currently there. The ages of 11 and 13 are apparently related to Paul Hansen's children, and this seems clear in context. Family, at least in terms of numeration, is probably a relevant matter. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- At the time you wrote your comment the article said that "he married" ... this is a fact, apparently conceded by yourself. The article was presumably written because the article subject has become notable because of his various actions. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did you post this Wikipedia entry ? There is inaccurate information here. PamelaHarrLud (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Logs
[edit]On my commons.js I have a couple of scripts that add links, one I can go directly to a user's deleted contributions (without going through contributions) and another so I can go directly to edit mode of my main sandbox. Is there an equivalent that will give a direct link to my logs (without going through contributions)? Thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter:, great, many thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
First time editing - help needed
[edit]So basically I'm going to China soon. I'm Vietnamese. We fly in an airline called Lucky Air, a "budget" airline based in China. We will fly to Lijiang from Cat Bi International Airport, located in Haiphong. I checked the destinations and there wasn't Haiphong in the Vietnamese section. Added it but it shows the country is Haiphong. I wanted to add Haiphong into the Vietnamese group but based on my name, I have never edited anything (well, did change one letter from non-capital to capital in a future Singapore metro station since I used to be obssesed with it) so I need help. I'm kinda sure some veterans will laugh but hey, this is a first time editer. The page:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Air Idonteditjustwatching (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This would need a citation from a reliable source. That said, many of the destinations at Lucky Air are already uncited. It may be possible to cite them from timetables, but these are primary sources.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
videos
[edit]On the home page after I've told you what I'm searching for, all I see is videos for that search. You are aware that the tabs at the top of the page include "videos". So why are they there? My most frequent searches are for album jackets for logging my cassette tapes. Sometimes, I don't know which album i need, so I use the song and artist for my search. When I do that, I have seen the song and click on it to get the album. But, ,ore often than not, THERE IS NO LISTING OF THE SONG that is not followed by "You Tube". If i want the videos, I'll click the video tab. If I don't click it, don't send video information. 24.152.228.155 (talk) 16:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Are you searching in Wikipedia? Wikipedia normally searches for articles, not visual media.
- If you are not searching in Wikipedia, we can't help you here, because this is the Help Desk for Wikipedia only. ColinFine (talk) 16:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
How to get two templates next to each other in info boxes, and not on top
[edit]I am seting up a wiki page on Miraheze (Just fictional), where I am using a template within a template: [1]https://dicemanager.miraheze.org/wiki/Purafoin_Warriors My problem is that the match kits (at the bottom of the infobox) are on top on each other and not next to each other. How can I fix this? Magnern (talk) 18:54, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Magnern: This is a help desk for Wikipedia. We are not affiliated with Miraheze but I took a look. You can place them in a table like this:
<table> <tr><td>{{Football kit | pattern_la = _red_stripes | pattern_b = _redstripes2 | pattern_ra = _red_stripes | pattern_sh = | pattern_so = | leftarm = | body = | rightarm = | shorts = 0000E8 | socks = FF0000 | title = Home colours }}</td> <td>{{Football kit | pattern_la = _blue_stripes | pattern_b = _bluestripes | pattern_ra = _blue_stripes | pattern_sh = | pattern_so = | leftarm = | body = | rightarm = | shorts = | socks = 0000E8 | title = Away colours }}</td></tr> </table>
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- It doesn't use wiki syntax for the table because it would conflict with the template syntax. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tables should not be used for layout. See MOS:LTAB. Bazza 7 (talk) 09:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's about an unaffiliated wiki so our manual of style doesn't apply but anyway, {{Infobox football club}} uses the same method and it could be debated whether it is tabular content. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tables should not be used for layout. See MOS:LTAB. Bazza 7 (talk) 09:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
draft article
[edit]I drafted a COI page for "Christopher ("Kit") Lukas the other day. I want to add to it but can't find it. Where is it hidden? thank you. Sakultik (talk) 19:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean by "COI draft". The subject already has an article(unless you are writing about a different individual with the same name). Do you mean your draft about his deceased wife Draft:Susan Lukas? I don't see any drafts about Christopher. If you want to propose COI edits to the Christopher Lukas article, you may use its talk page. 331dot (talk) 19:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. What happened was that I thought I had to start a new COI draft under AFC. I called it "Christopher ("Kit") Lukas to differentiate it from the original (Christopher Lukas) page. I added about ten references. Is it possible I now have to back and add those to the original page, or does the "Kit" page exist somewhere. Sakultik (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's something going on on your userpage which should really be in Draft: namespace. Is that what you mean? I'm happy to move the page for you. Cremastra (talk) 19:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please! Sakultik (talk) 19:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm going to move your userpage to Draft:Christopher "Kit" Lukas, then re-add your COI box. Cremastra (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Done. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 19:26, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I assume I Sakultik (talk) 21:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm going to move your userpage to Draft:Christopher "Kit" Lukas, then re-add your COI box. Cremastra (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please! Sakultik (talk) 19:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's something going on on your userpage which should really be in Draft: namespace. Is that what you mean? I'm happy to move the page for you. Cremastra (talk) 19:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. What happened was that I thought I had to start a new COI draft under AFC. I called it "Christopher ("Kit") Lukas to differentiate it from the original (Christopher Lukas) page. I added about ten references. Is it possible I now have to back and add those to the original page, or does the "Kit" page exist somewhere. Sakultik (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sakultik My advice would be to approach this in a different way. You are going to get in a mess by having both the "live" article at Christopher Lukas and your overlapping draft at Draft:Christopher "Kit" Lukas. In view of your COI, the recommended way to update the live article is by making edit requests on its Talk Page. Making these in smallish increments (text plus properly cited sources) should be your aim. Uninvolved editors will then review each suggestion and incorporate it or say why it isn't appropriate. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would much rather have you delete the original and let me put up the much more accurate one for editors to look at, knowing that I have ten additional references. Is it possible to delete to original and leave a draft "Kit" one?
- Thanks Sakultik (talk) 21:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your draft is currently unfit to be an article. The references are insufficient (what is "LUKAS (hsp.org)" or "(Doubleday) 2008 (ISBN 978-0-385-52520-6)"? URLs are needed); the formatting is partially broken, and there are <ref> errors. Those are the things that leap to the eye; there may be more. Cremastra (talk) 21:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sakultik: Since your draft was based on the existing article, deleting that article without deleting your draft would be a violation of the CC BY-SA license that its editors released their contributions under. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia § Reusing deleted material. Beyond the legal requirement for attribution, I think it goes against Wikipedia etiquette. If you want to improve an article, making use of the work done by previous editors, then you shouldn't try to erase the records of that work. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Della Reese's filmography
[edit]Della Reese appeared briefly in the black and white movie called Let's Rock (1958). She sang a song called "Lonely Ville". PeterBurgessGriggs (talk) 22:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- We'd need a reliable source for that. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- This Chicago Sun Times article verifies her role in that film and videos of her performing a song in the movie are available on YouTube. Cullen328 (talk) 01:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Delegated legislation (United Kingdom); mass AFD
[edit]On the Law of the United Kingdom page, there is a page containing a sidebox referring to lists of delegated legislation
- United Kingdom statutory instruments
- Scottish statutory instruments
- Welsh statutory instruments
- Statutory rules of Northern Ireland
Many of these articles don't serve any purpose. They aren't informative and they strictly refer to primary sources.
I would like to propose a mass deletion of these articles.
What information do I need to give to suggest this?
Additionally, I would like to suggest that Statutory rules of Northern Ireland be exempted from this for all years between 1974 and 1998 [inclusive], because they were doing the job of primary legislation in this period.
I would also say that I am only suggesting that ***list*** pages would be included in this grouping of articles to be removed. To that end, these pages would be excluded.
- Statutory instrument (UK)
- Statutory rules and orders
- Ministerial order
- Scottish statutory instruments
- Statutory rules of Northern Ireland
I am not suggesting the deletion of articles about the concept of secondary legislation, only these lists.
I am also not sure if these pages should be included
- List of statutory rules and orders of Northern Ireland
- List of statutory rules and orders of the United Kingdom
- List of regulatory reform orders
- List of Church of England instruments
because they're only one page each DotCoder (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, your first stop should probably be Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. Mass deletion nominations often don't go as planned, so see also WP:TRAINWRECK. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but is there a specific process for a mass-request? DotCoder (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:BUNDLE has guidance. I echo JSS's general advice about mass nominations, but on a first glance at a sample I have to agree there's a strong case for deletion. – Teratix ₵ 02:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but is there a specific process for a mass-request? DotCoder (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
August 30
[edit]Submitting written, verified information.
[edit]How can I submit written, verified information to Wikipedia. 2001:FB1:E2:4B82:242C:B10C:995F:C625 (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- How to submit a verified article about Ion Electrolyte to Wikipedia via email? 2001:FB1:E2:4B82:242C:B10C:995F:C625 (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- You cannot sumbit Wikipedia articles via email. You must create the article on Wikipedia. I would not reccomend creating an article as an IP adress editor though. MacaroniPizzaHotDog (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not accept submitted "written, verified information". Information in Wikipedia must come from published, reliable sources. See WP:RS.-Arch dude (talk) 05:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Are users allowed to falsely claim they are banned on their userpage if they mark it as a joke?
[edit]Hey I was just reaching out because I was wondering policy-wise if users are prevented, if they present it as a joke, from claiming they are banned from Wikipedia on their userpage when they are actually not even blocked. I don't want to post to ANI because I am uncertain specifically on policy justification and I think that is unnecessary escalation at this point.
User:Justcgi explicitly put a ban notice on their userpage saying they were banned indefinitely by both Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation which I removed because they were actually appearing in the Banned Users category due to using official ban templates (the only reason I found out is because they used the wrong template and were appearing in the temporary ban category). I told them not to do that and gave them a warning.
Their userpage has a notice again saying they are banned by the Wikimedia Foundation but it does not use an official ban template and it is clearly marked as humorous now.
I feel like that is still not something that user should be doing because it is confusing, but I don't know of a policy justification for why it's not allowed so I don't know if I can remove that again and escalate to a second level warning. [2] (current version) [3] (the original version with the ban template I gave the warning about). --Thebirdlover (talk) 05:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Both this user page and this (one-year-old) sandbox edit suggest to me that the user is very young.-- Hoary (talk) 06:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Eh, I was younger than the linked edit would indicate the user is now when I started out 14 years ago and I'd say I was more responsible. I think someone that age might act a little goofier and do things they regret, I know there are quite a few things I did starting out in hindsight I think were cringe now. However, I definitely believe it is still possible to be mature and a strong contributor at that age. So I don't completely think immaturity and youthfulness is an excuse. Definitely, a mitigating factor but not the end all be all. --Thebirdlover (talk) 06:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. -- Hoary (talk) 07:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Eh, I was younger than the linked edit would indicate the user is now when I started out 14 years ago and I'd say I was more responsible. I think someone that age might act a little goofier and do things they regret, I know there are quite a few things I did starting out in hindsight I think were cringe now. However, I definitely believe it is still possible to be mature and a strong contributor at that age. So I don't completely think immaturity and youthfulness is an excuse. Definitely, a mitigating factor but not the end all be all. --Thebirdlover (talk) 06:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
EDIT REVERT
[edit]This with reference to my contribution in editing a detail about the active political party which is shown dissolved and also spelling of one of the founder is wrong which we have corrected. you are requested to please incorporate requested edits as it's hindering our presence and work. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 07:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not interested in the work of your political party, but please offer independent reliable sources that discuss the existence of your party. Please also see your user talk page about conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 07:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I beg to differ, i never said it's my party at the first place, please refrain from making such remarks. I am editing as a part of a community. a reliable source is again the internet/books published/active people working for it. i am afraid how to rely when i see few crucial inputs are published wrong and community being resistance to look into the matter. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 15:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- According to the article, OmGanGanpataye, Bharatiya Jana Sangh lost its separate identity back in 1977. Is this mistaken? But you seem far more interested in altering the spelling of "Mukherjee" in Syama Prasad Mukherjee (incidentally, a Good Article) to "Mookerjee". (The alteration has already been made within that article -- see Talk:Syama Prasad Mukherjee/Archive 1) but not to the title.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Preview
[edit]I'm wondering why on Swiss Journal of Economics and Statistics the file doesn't show on the preview. Is it the size? Or something else? Nobody (talk) 09:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @1AmNobody24: It's the size. width × height of the uploaded file must be either at least 320 × 200 px or 203 × 250 px. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks PrimeHunter, Never done it before, but I'll try to resize it. Nobody (talk) 10:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Resizing worked for most of them. For File:Swiss Journal of Sociology.jpg I don't know the solution. Nobody (talk) 17:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Doubts regarding using photos from this wiki in another one
[edit]Greetings to everyone! Hope you are all having a great day!
Today i come to you with some questions regarding the usage of pictures as mentioned above. My situation is as it follows: i come from the catalan wikipedia and a few months ago i was reading random articles here and came across British U-class submarine, and decided to translate it all. For now i still have plenty of work to do, but i'm managin to keep going except for one thing, the badges. In any article of a sub of that class your wiki displays on the tables the badge of the ship, but i have not been able to use them on my wiki, unlike all the other images that i can use without any problem whatsoever. I asked on my wiki's forum but didn't get an straight answer besides that it's not uploaded to wikimedia but just wikipedia or smth like that, but nothing besides that or how to solve it.
So that's why i came here today, to see if someone here knowledgable in the licenses and wikimedia topic could shed some light onto why i might be coming across this issue and how to solve it, for i'd really like to include those pics on the translations. I'm fully aware that this might not be the right place to ask, for this is not my wiki after all and you might not know how it works (tbh neither do I) or what's causing it there; but any guidance, advice or link to a forum/page/article would be so appreciated.
Thank you for your time and take care!
PS: sorry for the typos and possible bleeding eyes, wrote this quickly Llapis (talk) 10:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Llapis: File:UNIVERSAL badge-1-.jpg is a non-free image so the use is restricted. Wikimedia Commons is a shared file repository for Wikimedia wikis but it doesn't allow non-free files at all. That means the image has to be uploaded separately to each wiki which wants to use it. Wikipedia languages can have different rules for use of non-free images. I don't know Catalan but there is a page at ca:Viquipèdia:Continguts no lliures. You have to work out how to give the required license information in Catalan if you upload it there. You can edit File:UNIVERSAL badge-1-.jpg to see what the English Wikipedia does but Catalan may be different. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
generalleutnant friedrich- wilhelm muller.
[edit]This German officer was executed in 1947 having being found guilty of ordering executions of civilian hostages on Crete during the second world war. Executed by firing squad - 'deemed to be an Honourable Death. Why was he not hanged - fitting ( as how the German leaders during the War were executed after being found guilty at the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials )? 92.15.61.98 (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- For reference Friedrich-Wilhelm Müller Knitsey (talk) 13:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a question for the folks at the reference desks - WP:RD/H most likely. 57.140.16.35 (talk) 13:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- He was sentenced by a Greek court. Maybe Greek law specified firing squad. Maproom (talk) 14:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maproom is correct. According to Capital punishment in Greece, the firing squad became the only approved method of execution in Greece in 1929 and the last execution was in 1972. The death penalty has since been abolished. Cullen328 (talk) 20:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Brian Lamb
[edit]Hello. I was watching C-Span Washington Journal this morning (August 30 2024) and at the end of the program they announced that Brian Lamb was retiring from C-Span today if I understood correctly. I found this interesting because I am retiring today as well. I thought perhaps this needs to be verified and updated somehow in the Wikipedia biography of him. Thank you. Collabria (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused, as I can find sources saying he retired today, and also that he retired five years ago. [4][5]. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- As with rock stars and Wikipedia editors, retirements are not always permanent. Cullen328 (talk) 20:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- He's also still doing the Booknotes+ Podcast, so he is still making content for CSPAN even with this "retirement" announcement. But he's had three retirements. He had one in 2012 as CEO, a 2019 retirement where he stopped doing on-air appearances other than the podcast but it sounds like was continuing to doing other work for the company behind the scenes. This 2024 retirement seems like he is now dropping everything else he was still involved in and just focusing on the podcast now. So, it sounds like he has been slowly lessening his workload over the past 12 years, but confusingly seems to make an announcement about it each time he does cut something out. --Thebirdlover (talk) 21:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- As with rock stars and Wikipedia editors, retirements are not always permanent. Cullen328 (talk) 20:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Collabria: Congratulations on your retirement! I hope it's a long and happy one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
I accidentally messed up the Wikipedia page for Earth Zero/Htrae/Bizarro World if anyone could fix it please do, thank you!
[edit]the Wikipedia page for Earth Zero/Htrae/Bizarro World says it has to many <ref> or something so I tried fixing it but I just messed it up even more 207.5.25.184 (talk) 16:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello IP! If this is about List of DC Multiverse worlds, I have reverted back to the version before you went in the ref tag. What were you trying to do? —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 16:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Updating Search result information
[edit]How do I update the information that shows on google about a Wiki item? I edited the page where that information lives but on google it shows the incorrect information. Sajacobsen (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia and its editors have no control over when search engines update information once they have started indexing pages. However, in my experience, articles here are updated very quickly after a new edit has been made. If I were you, I'd wait 24 hours to see what happens. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Incidentally, in your recent edits to Severance, Colorado you removed a citation without explanation other than your edit summary "We are the town of Severance and I am updating this information on behalf of the Town of Severance management." This suggests you have a conflict of interest and are, in Wikipedia's terms, a WP:PAID editor. This means you edit is likely to be reverted and also means you should make the mandtory paid editing disclosure, as explained at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sajacobsen, also, the unsourced zip codes you added disagree with the USPS zip lookup site, so I removed them. I also remoed the town rule type, as well as the population figures, which did not agree with the source previously in the article (dating to 2009). This information may be updated by any editor without a conflict by adding it back in, along with a citation to a reliable source. If you wish to change it, please start a new discussion at Talk:Severance, Colorado, explain the situation, and ask for someone else to update the page. Mathglot (talk) 04:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Incidentally, in your recent edits to Severance, Colorado you removed a citation without explanation other than your edit summary "We are the town of Severance and I am updating this information on behalf of the Town of Severance management." This suggests you have a conflict of interest and are, in Wikipedia's terms, a WP:PAID editor. This means you edit is likely to be reverted and also means you should make the mandtory paid editing disclosure, as explained at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
August 31
[edit]Immediate delete request
[edit]Hi
I was done some mistake when i created profile..it waa wrongly editted wirh other profile.. how to solve thar Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 01:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you are talking about the page User:Shiyas P Ummer, you may have it deleted (almost) immediately by adding
{{db-g7}}
somewhere on the page, and saving (Publishing) the page. Mathglot (talk) 03:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC) - Add missing ping. Mathglot (talk) 03:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and deleted it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks i am sorry for my mistake ..understanding better and more Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 03:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just Step Sideways, it's still there. Mathglot (talk) 04:30, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Mathglot, SPU recreated it after the deletion. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was wondering about that... I thought that leaves a trace, in a several lines-high pink-bg banner, but I didn't see that, nor did I see anything in the edit history. Doesn't a delete leave some sort of trace?
- User:Shiyas P Ummer, was the wrong page deleted, is that why you recreated your user page with the same content? Mathglot (talk) 04:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You want me to delete? Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 04:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You seem to misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. This isn't a platform for self-promotion. Not in article space. Not on your user page. Not anywhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, that was some odd behavior. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You seem to misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. This isn't a platform for self-promotion. Not in article space. Not on your user page. Not anywhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You want me to delete? Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 04:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Mathglot, SPU recreated it after the deletion. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and deleted it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Donate without filling out information. Users want to donate with total anonymity
[edit]Suggestion to have an option as a payment mode for donations anonymously. 2405:201:D001:299C:5533:D0C2:8975:3E4D (talk) 04:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Two things for you to consider, IP editor. First, the volunteer editors on the English Wikipedia have nothing to do with the paid fundraising staffers at the Wikimedia Foundation. We have literally nothing to do with them except that we sometimes argue with them about what many editors believe to be their deceptive fundraising tactics. As for anonymous donations, you could put a US $20.00 bill in an envelope and mail it to their San Francisco address, but how would you know that some mail room clerk would not put it in their pocket and buy a cheap bottle of whiskey with it after work that day? As for cryptocurrency, it is a gigantic house of cards resembling a Ponzi sceme. Making your donation through established online channels gives you a reasonable assurance that your donation of actual genuine currency as opposed to something imaginary and rife with fraud will be allocated properly. Cullen328 (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
"We have literally nothing to do with them except that we sometimes argue with them about what many editors believe to be their deceptive fundraising tactics. "
Speak for yourself. Some of us discuss things with them cordially and positively, and appreciate what they do. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ironically, if you wish to remain anonymous here you should have created an account rather than reveal the name of your company through your IP address. Before you go any further I suggst you study Internet privacy. Shantavira|feed me 09:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- See https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give. You can mail a money order as a donation. My understanding is you can purchase these for cash at the post office or other places anonymously. Traveller's cheque may be another option, but you need to sign those, so not completely anonymous depending on how legible your signature is. RudolfRed (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
i have tried to add a commons file (old house photo) at the end of this article (2nd last paragrah). I got it all wrong . Please fix if you can. thanks 175.38.37.197 (talk) 05:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
templatedata not showing up
[edit]i have added templatedata to Template:Infobox card game. why isn't it showing up when editing, say, whist? ltbdl☃ (talk) 08:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm not seeing any edit by you to Template:Infobox card game either in its history or in your contributions. ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- templatedata is contained in the documentation. ltbdl☃ (talk) 10:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think changing the documentation makes any difference to the template itself. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- it does. see e.g. {{infobox person}}. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think changing the documentation makes any difference to the template itself. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- templatedata is contained in the documentation. ltbdl☃ (talk) 10:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
"Lua error: too many expensive function calls." in references
[edit]Hello, I'm currently in the process of replacing the unusual links to the German Wikipedia in the article List of Gothic brick buildings in Germany by interlanguage links using the Template:Interlanguage link (you had to click on "(DE)" in this article). I've already done a good half of the work. However, I've now noticed a lot of "Lua error: too many expensive function calls." in the references section of this article. What happened here? It seems the first occurrence of these errors started with this modification, which seems completely valid to me. Cyfal (talk) 08:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cyfal: The page is in Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. A page is only allowed 500 expensive function calls. Each {{ill}} makes an ifexist check for an English article and ifexist is one of the expensive functions. There are 510 {{ill}} on the page. It has to be reduced. There is no way to bypass the limit. There might also be other expensive functions on the page. "Parser profiling data" at the bottom of a preview window shows the total number but may stop counting if 500 is passed. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer, PrimeHunter, especially for the deeper explanation of what the {{ill}} does. So I will have to remove my neatly interlanguage links again... Well, then there's nothing I can do to avoid this. --Cyfal (talk) 11:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- you could split the page. it's already really long. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, but I think for a list it's ok - and I also want to keep the scheme of the German counterpart and of List of Gothic brick buildings in Poland and List of Gothic brick buildings in the Netherlands. --Cyfal (talk) 21:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Cyfal, for interlanguage links, you don't have to use {{ill}}. You can link the de.wp articles using regular interwiki links like
[[:de:Article title]]
. Folly Mox (talk) 21:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)- For clarity, this should vastly reduce the parser overhead, since interwiki links are not checked for existence. Folly Mox (talk) 21:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I know, I'm already in the process of reinstating such links again in in the List of Gothic brick buildings in Germany. --Cyfal (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- That technically works, but it can be problematic because many who do that tend to WP:PIPE such links as
[[:de:Article title|Article title]]
which makes it seem as if an English Wikipedia about the link target exists when it doesn't. It also sends readers to a non-English Wikipedia article when they're most likely not expecting it. For such reasons, using{{ill}}
seems to be encouraged as best practice per H:FOREIGNLINK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)- {{ill}} is problematic in its own ways too: display of non-ASCII glyphs in URLs displayed on hover or long press is browser-dependent, so for languages that don't use the Latin alphabet, readers on some browsers are forced to navigate off the website to the sister project just to retrieve the native name of the linked article.Piping raw interwiki links is almost always an easter egg (unless super obviously not an English term) and hence not best practice, but for articles in non-Latin scripts the information behind them is much more accessible. Folly Mox (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cyfal: Perhaps instead of piping "DE", it would be better to pipe "German Wikipedia article" since that seems easier for readers to understand. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cyfal: I examined the documentation and Template:Interlanguage link#Forcing links could be used for some or all of the links. This would avoid the expensive ifexist check by always linking both an English and German page whether or not the English page exists. Other parts of the page only have 6 expensive function calls. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I will then use this parameter, that will both then avoid the usage of "DE" or "German Wikipedia article" and save me a lot of work! --Cyfal (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cyfal: I examined the documentation and Template:Interlanguage link#Forcing links could be used for some or all of the links. This would avoid the expensive ifexist check by always linking both an English and German page whether or not the English page exists. Other parts of the page only have 6 expensive function calls. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- That technically works, but it can be problematic because many who do that tend to WP:PIPE such links as
- Yes I know, I'm already in the process of reinstating such links again in in the List of Gothic brick buildings in Germany. --Cyfal (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- For clarity, this should vastly reduce the parser overhead, since interwiki links are not checked for existence. Folly Mox (talk) 21:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- you could split the page. it's already really long. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer, PrimeHunter, especially for the deeper explanation of what the {{ill}} does. So I will have to remove my neatly interlanguage links again... Well, then there's nothing I can do to avoid this. --Cyfal (talk) 11:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Naming conventions for churches
[edit]Somewhere I am sure I have seen policy/guidance/naming convention proposals on the preferred way to title articles about churches. My memory tells me that the format, St X's Church, Borchester is preferred to Church of St X, Borchester. But I cannot remember where I have seen this. It is also possible I've asked this question previously, in which case apologies. Either way, if anyone could point me in the direction of the relevant documentation, I should be very grateful. KJP1 (talk) 08:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Forget this. A search of the archive, which I should have done first, shows that I asked the question in 2019,[7] and there isn't a convention/policy. KJP1 (talk) 08:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, KJP1. I am unaware of any such church specific naming convention. As I see it, the relevant guideline is WP:COMMONNAME. So, take a look at the full range of reliable sources discussing the church and use what most reliable sources use. In your example, I venture to guess that the sources will not use "Borchester" in the way you did, because the reader of the source will detect that in context, if, perhaps, the source is the "Borchester Gazette" if such a publication exists. So, use the name most commonly used by reliable independent sources, and add a disambiguating parenthetical only as needed to distinguish this particular church from other churches with very similar names. Cullen328 (talk) 09:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- As an example, I am the original author of Holy Virgin Cathedral, not because I am Russian Orthodox but because I am interested in the architecture of San Francisco. I did not need to add "San Francisco" to the title, because there are no other Wikipedia articles about any other "Holy Virgin Cathedrals". Cullen328 (talk) 09:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Cullen328 - Many thanks for getting back, and for the advice which is most helpful. The problem with English/Welsh churches is that so many do have the same names. The number of St Mary's Church, Xplace runs into the hundreds. Then, when you look at the sources, and our articles, you can find; St Mary's Church, Church of St Mary, Parish Church of St Mary, Priory Church of St Mary, Cathedral Church of St Mary, Church of St Mary & St Michael, Church of St Mary and All Saints... and on and on. But I think your advice holds good most of the time: what's the common/most commonly used name, and is a disambiguater required? KJP1 (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- As an example, I am the original author of Holy Virgin Cathedral, not because I am Russian Orthodox but because I am interested in the architecture of San Francisco. I did not need to add "San Francisco" to the title, because there are no other Wikipedia articles about any other "Holy Virgin Cathedrals". Cullen328 (talk) 09:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Converting music score png to Lilypond
[edit]I'd be most grateful for help in converting this file into Lilypond for use in the article Much Binding in the Marsh, to replace the png file, which we are advised should be succeeded by a score file.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Much_binding_4-4_dotted.png/390px-Much_binding_4-4_dotted.png)
Tim riley talk 14:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Tim riley: I think this mostly works:
![\relative {\numericTimeSignature
g'
\bar "|"
c2 \stemDown
^[
\set stemLeftBeamCount = 0
c,8 \stemUp
d
\bar ""
e8.
f16]
\bar "|"
g2 \stemUp
}
\addlyrics { At Much Bin- ding in the Marsh }
\layout { \override Lyrics.LyricText.font-size = #0.1 }](http://upload.wikimedia.org/score/g/2/g20a1t0nf5nf243g9q6dkmg13m7bh64/g20a1t0n.png)
I'm not sure why the stem of the final g half-note insists on going down; I'll try to fix that, but hopefully this will work as a rough stand-in for now. Cremastra (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- It will certainly do me! Thank you so much. I am full of admiration for your skill. Tim riley talk 15:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed the stem issue; I'll update the article. Cremastra (talk) 15:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
How can I add a official photo of Debashish Bhattacharya
[edit]Addition of the photo in the Wikipedia profile. Chaturangui (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Chaturangui.
- First question: are you connected with Bhattacharya? If you are, you should be aware of Wikipedia's advice on editing with a conflict of interest. If, further, you are in any way employed or remunerated in connection with Bhattacharya, then Wikipedia regards you as a paid editor, and you must make the formal declaration explained in that link.
- As to the image: it depends on the copyright status of the image you want to add. If the copyright owner (who is usually the photographer, not the subject) has explicitly released the image under a suitable copyleft license such as CC-BY-SA, then you (or anyone) may upload the image to Wikimedia Commons and add it to an article. If they haven't, and they won't release it, it may not be possible. Please see Help:Upload. ColinFine (talk) 16:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Page refreshing
[edit]Hey there! I want to ask, that there are some of refreshed infromations on my wiki page, but there is written that somebody has to admit to be seenable if anybody are searching for my name. Can tell me what’s the problame whit it? Moncsessz (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which article are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- https://hu.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horv%C3%A1th_M%C3%B3nika Moncsessz (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. If you want help with the Hungarian-language one, you need to ask over there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you link it? Because i did not found it! Moncsessz (talk) 15:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You could try here. [8] There doesn't seem to be a help desk, but this looks to be something similar, at least from what Google translate makes of it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you link it? Because i did not found it! Moncsessz (talk) 15:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. If you want help with the Hungarian-language one, you need to ask over there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- https://hu.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horv%C3%A1th_M%C3%B3nika Moncsessz (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Resistance from correcting a fact and publish
[edit]Sir, This is with reference to the Akhil Bhartiya Jansangh Wikipedia page. I read a book about the founder Syama Prasad Mookherjee and got curious to look into the wikipedia and found out few corrections. I am not claiming anything privately, it's the fact which is published wrong and as a community it's my duty to request a correction. Please suggest a way forward considering all the guidelines are followed strictly. i will be happy to adhere. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss it on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've already told you, provide sources and don't "fix" what doesn't need fixing. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 20:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- i want to know the reason of your resistance, please talk to the point; my intent of correcting a fact have made clear with every response. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've already told you, provide sources and don't "fix" what doesn't need fixing. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 20:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss the matter on the article's talk page; and if it happens to be about the spelling "Mukherjee", then point people to the earlier discussion at Talk:Syama Prasad Mukherjee/Archive 1. Incidentally, there are many women here; they may be surprised to be addressed as "Sir" (however politely and amicably intended). -- Hoary (talk) 22:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
create an article in sandbox. couldn't publish it and now it has disappeared
[edit]Is there a way to find out how to publish on this platform. I created a page for happiness4beginners. It was in sandbox, I couldn't figure out how to publish it. Apparently, it was not saved in sandbox and now it has disappeared. I see questions to my mentor but they are all unanswered. Happiness4Beginners (talk) 17:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked, user was promoting their YouTube channel of the same name. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Using live data templates inside Syntax Highlight
[edit]I'd like to add some common templates to my user page for easy copy/paste into articles, manually filling in the missing fields.
I'm doing this with Template:syntaxhighlight like so:
cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |access-date= |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=
Is there any way to inject "live data" into the syntax highlight pre-formatted text?
I'd like to include the current date like so: September 1, 2024
But using the template, that shows |date={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}
How can I add the always-updating live date to the template? PK-WIKI (talk) 17:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did you mean to use
|date=
? Or or did you mean|access-date=
? - I don't think that you can have 'live' elements inside
<syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
tags. You might do something like this:<code><nowiki>{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=</nowiki> |access-date={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}</code>
{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote= |access-date=September 1, 2024}}
- Remember that the magic words aren't 'live' so with this method, your user page may require a null edit or purge to update them.
- Magic words can be subst'd, but alas, substing doesn't work inside
<ref>...</ref>
tags. If you are not using the cs1|2 template in<ref>...</ref>
tags (list defined referencing) then you might try:{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |access-date={{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTDAY}}, {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=}}</code>
- "Title". The New York Times. Retrieved August 31, 2024.
- this 'live' example modified to suppress cs1|2 errors
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Referencing errors on 2024 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence
[edit]Reference help requested. How to use this bot? Thanks, ZeetBaralWiki 20:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Cross-wiki abuse
[edit]My talk and user pages on Wikisource (which I don't use, by the way) are being targeted with personal attacks. I know en.wikipedia isn't the place to report this, but can someone direct me to the Wikisource equivalent of WP:AIV? I know the attacks are coming from a long-time abuse user on a logged-out IP address which has banned on en.wikipedia. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @GeorgeMemulous: wikisource:Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard says "This is also the place to report vandalism or request an administrator's help." But is it about the English Wikisource? I don't see edits to your user or talk page there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing me to that! I think the pages have since been removed by a Wikisource or meta admin, but both my user and talk pages were defaced with personal attacks for a time. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I found the issue: en.wikisource.org is separate from wikisource.org.
- My wikisource.org page is currently defaced. I can't find an equivalent, so for now, I'll ask at the en Wikisource page you linked. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @GeorgeMemulous: I didn't know Wikisource has a common wiki for all languages, unlike Wikipedia. I see your user and talk page have been deleted and create-protected now. I hope the vandal doesn't find another way to harass you. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
WIKIWAND
[edit]Can someone tell me why when I click on wikipedia.org I am taken to wikiwand? I want to be taken to wikipedia.com not wikiwand. It's very annoying.
Thank you Ellen Marchese emarches at live dot com Emarches (talk) 23:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Emarches: Maybe your browser has a Wikiwand extension. Do you know how to see and disable extensions in your browser? If not then what is your browser? If you don't have a Wikiwand extension then where do you click on wikipedia.org when you're taken to Wikiwand? Please give an example link. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
September 1
[edit]Help with coordinates
[edit]Im creating a new article but the coordinates doesnt work. It shows the wrong location. At the bottom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Supreme_Deliciousness/misc
33.02163810199814, 35.80560072280436 https://www.google.se/maps/place/Horvat+Ramthaniya/@33.0194791,35.8143555,14z/data=!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x151ea86dae7bdc5f:0xe12ffe365d6c370a!2sGolanh%C3%B6jderna!3b1!8m2!3d33.0155854!4d35.784354!16zL20vMDNjZHo!3m5!1s0x151ea912c593ee31:0xf04f21d5bc533be5!8m2!3d33.020078!4d35.805434!16s%2Fg%2F1tjh1lzg?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 00:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Supreme Deliciousness: 33.02163810199814, 35.80560072280436 are in decimal. I have converted them to DMS (degrees-minutes-seconds).[9] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Unable to Create External Link
[edit]When entering the external link as [URL text-to-use] it displays backwards. The page is at:
Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star\Aircraft on Display\United States\P-80C
Shows as:
- 47-0221 – Redesignated US Navy TV-1 33824 at [https://wingsoffreedommuseum.org/ Wings of Freedom Museum] Horsham, Pennsylvania]].
Please indicate how to correct the link. Voyager88 (talk) 03:12, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Voyager88. There are three problems here. First, you have included inappropriate nowiki tags within your external link. See Template:Nowiki for the documentation. There are two bigger problems. The page you are linking to does not mention the plane in question. The biggest problem is that external links do not belong in the body of an article. You should create a reference that actually verifies the content instead. Cullen328 (talk) 03:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply:
- Inappropriate Nowiki tags - thanks, but I couldn’t figure out how to correct it. Can you please provide guidance?
- Page doesn’t mention the plane in question - I linked the website homepage. I can change it to the page that mentions the plane in question. On the other hand, all the other external links go the website home page, as I did.
- External links do not belong in the body of an article - I am only adding one line (47-0221) to a long list that contains similar external links. Voyager88 (talk) 04:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Voyager88, regarding your third point - just because other people have done something incorrectly doesn't mean you should do it too! However, I don't see any other external links in the list; it looks to me like the other links are to Wikipedia articles (not website home pages), which are not external and are encouraged. If I've missed one, please do point it out.
- For the moment I've reverted your edit; you need a reliable source to verify your addition, as Cullen328 mentions. Once you have that, have a look at how the other redesignations have been listed and see whether you can copy those to create the one you wish to add. StartGrammarTime (talk) 07:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see no other direct external links in the text of Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star. Maproom (talk) 07:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Voyager88: Your edit [10] used VisualEditor when you tried to add the link. VisualEditor hides the underlying code and only displays the result. And the user doesn't type code like link brackets in VisualEditor but uses its own features to make code. It has a chain icon to add a link but as said above, an external link shouldn't have been added there at all. In case you don't know, external link generally means a link going to another website, not Wikipedia itself. The other items in the list only display internal links in the list itself. Some of them have an allowed external link in a reference but it's displayed in the references section. VisualEditor has a pencil icon at the top right to switch to the source editor where code can be seen and edited directly. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you all for your help. This is my first post. I changed the external link to an internal link and added a citation from AirHistory.net. It looks correct now. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do. Voyager88 (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Voyager88: Your edit [10] used VisualEditor when you tried to add the link. VisualEditor hides the underlying code and only displays the result. And the user doesn't type code like link brackets in VisualEditor but uses its own features to make code. It has a chain icon to add a link but as said above, an external link shouldn't have been added there at all. In case you don't know, external link generally means a link going to another website, not Wikipedia itself. The other items in the list only display internal links in the list itself. Some of them have an allowed external link in a reference but it's displayed in the references section. VisualEditor has a pencil icon at the top right to switch to the source editor where code can be seen and edited directly. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Guidelines on chemistry solubility?
[edit]On the MoS for line equations it merely says "Do not include phase definitions unless they are absolutely essential". Normally, the states of matter as written as, for example, AgCl(s), but on the silver chloride page the precipitate is written as a down arrow for 2 equations and with a subscript for the remaining. Does Wikipedia have a preferred style?
Also, on some pages, like silver phosphate, as well as the main article for solubility product, the solubility product is written with units at the end of it, when it is usually treated as a dimensionless quantity. Is there a preferred style?
Sorry if this is the wrong place btw SecretSpectre (talk) 07:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your attention to detail. Since Wikipedia is edited by thousands of volunteers, all working on what they choose, we often end up with inconsistencies (which some people, such as yourself) want to mitigate.
- I think you might find an answer (or ask the question) at WP:WikiProject Chemistry. ColinFine (talk) 08:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks SecretSpectre (talk) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SecretSpectre The silver chloride article was promoted to good article status as recently as February this year. The reviewer was User:Reconrabbit, who may now comment. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SecretSpectre, silver chloride was one of if not the first of the good articles I've reviewed and I learned a lot since then. I don't know how it's preferred to write out the phase but I'm familiar with both and (s) being used to denote a precipitate, and since the reaction in that article is specifically interested in the formation of a precipitate it seemed appropriate. The more modern {{Chem2}} template doesn't seem to support the down arrow so maybe it's been deprecated. These are more questions for the more experienced wikiproject chemistry users. Reconrabbit 15:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SecretSpectre The silver chloride article was promoted to good article status as recently as February this year. The reviewer was User:Reconrabbit, who may now comment. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks SecretSpectre (talk) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)