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[edit]I understand the concept of bilocation and multi-location, but are there proper terms for "tri-"location; "quad"-location "sept"-location etc.? And I could be wrong, but I thought that "bi-"location refers only to being in (2) "two" places at the same time, and that "multi-"location was more than (1) "one" at the same time. "bi-" location refers to a limitation of "two" existences; and "multi-location" can be two, three, four etc; even up to infinitismal, because "multi-" means "many" is not limited to "two" as "bi" is so limited. If I am correct about this, the beginning sentence is misleading. I didn't think that in correct usage multi-location was interchangeable with "bi-"location.
You are right that bilocation cannot be interchange with multilocation. But bilocation is a subset of multilocation(every bilocation is multilocation but every multilocation is not bilocation). so bilocation is a type of multilocation. not same as multilocation. Holyvincent (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
robert grave and bilocation??
[edit]robert grave is novelist and a poet and refers to bilocation in his fictional works. thus his mentions of the case are purely fictional and not factual.
if anyone has information about his factual work then please bring it.......
Moreover robert grave was the one who helped to publish many works of idries shah and probably his claims were the same claims of idries shah( who was expert in sufism and considered sufism to predate islam.[1] Holyvincent (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
References
- ^ wikipedia biography of idries shah
BILOCATION IN OTHER FAITHS AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS
[edit]Anecdotal reports of bilocation are not confined to Catholic Christianity. The phenomena has been reported in the lives of numerous Indian Saints as well. Among modern spiritual adepts who allegedly have exhibited this phenomena are Ananda Moyi Ma, Ammachi, Lahiri Mahasaya and Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri.
In the Hindu tradition, bilocation is considered an outward proof that the consciousness of the adept has expanded beyond the physical body. The appearance of an identical physical form is said to be evidence that the person has attained a higher state of consciousness.
Max Muller and other western scholars who have studied the Indian tradition question whether or not such phenomena are real, and suggest that bilocation and other extraordinary demonstrations may be due to "the dialogic process" or, the irrepressible miraculizing tendencies of devoted disciples.
As with Catholic Saints, the number of witnesses is substantial, and in some cases includes sceptics and multiple witnesses.
<AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI - Paramahansa Yogananda> < RAMAKRISHNA AND HIS DISCIPLES - Christopher Isherwood>Aspendougy (talk) 01:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Picture of St. Alphonse and caption
[edit]Regarding the [citation needed] tag, the article on him in the Catholic Encyclopedia and the bio in WP do not mention this alleged event. Unless a cite is provided soon, the picture and caption should be deleted. PraeceptorIP (talk) 18:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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Skepticism section...
[edit]Hello,
I am fairly new to contributing to Wikipedia, but one of the newer additions to this section of the article seems really out of place. It is important to approach an issue from multiple angles and to present all significant sides; in fact, this is one of Wikipedia's main tenets. However, it seems this section is seeking to completely discredit the section above it rather than simply propose a contrasting perspective. In addition, it is doing so while violating the tenet of verifiability. Whereas the first section references one source and attributes the claims to that source, the paragraphs afterward take up a personal and conversational tone of an author writing a think-piece. It references multiple subjects including oceanography, lucid dreaming, and relativity, all without actually providing any sources for its claims, including one that suggests that the people who hold the opposite position are responsible for the deaths of "untold numbers of sailors"!
If the author of this section wants to give his own opinions and commentary on anything in the article, I believe they are completely free to do so in the Talk section. I neither agree nor disagree with either of the positions. However, until further response or information comes to light, I will be removing the two latter paragraphs in their entirety for the sake of a neutral point of view and scholarly rigor.
Jbcarter2442 (talk) 01:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- This section currently has even worse issues. Cf:
- ...However [Skeptical investigator Joe] Nickel has been criticized to proceed unscientifically making statements that are mainly hypothetical or simply dismissing proven facts witnessed by hundreds and documented over centuries. Nickels has been suspected to be a member of several secret societies and an active Satanist...
- I mean, this is outright defamation! There is no RS, which is not surprising. I will be deleting this immediately. Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 21:26, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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