Talk:Nazism
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Nazism article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
![]() | The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
![]() | Wikipedia is not censored. Images or details contained within this article may be graphic or otherwise objectionable to some readers, to ensure a quality article and complete coverage of its subject matter. For more information, please refer to Wikipedia's content disclaimer regarding potentially objectionable content and options for not seeing an image. |
![]() | This page is not a forum for general discussion about Nazism. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Nazism at the Reference desk. |
![]() | Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute. |
Why does this article say that the Nazis were right-wing?
Because that is the consensus of reliable sources, in this case historians and political scientists. But the word "socialist" is right in their name!
Many political entities have names that can be misleading. Consider, for example, the Holy Roman Empire (a confederation of mainly German territories during the Middle Ages and the early modern period) and North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a totalitarian dictatorship). The usage of the word "socialism" by the Nazis is different from the common usage of the term "socialism" to refer to an economic philosophy involving advocacy for social ownership of the means of production. The phrase "national socialist" was a nationalist response to the rise of socialism in Europe by offering a redefinition of "socialism" to refer to the promotion of the interests of the nation, as opposed to ideas of individual self-interest. But there was no policy of social ownership of the means of production. The Nazis did talk about capitalism being bad, but they defined it as a Jewish-originated economic philosophy based on individualism that promoted plutocracy in the interest of the Jews, at the expense of non-Jewish nations and races. This was put in contrast to the Nazis' conception of socialism, which was done in order to win over people attracted to anti-capitalist and socialist ideas to their cause. They rejected ideas of equality and working class solidarity, instead advocating for social hierarchy and national strength. This article sums it up well. I made an offhand comment about it and somebody just came along and deleted it! What should I do?
Nothing. See this discussion where the community came to a consensus that we have entertained the numerous questions and claims about the Nazis being left-wing enough, and that continued engagement with people pushing this line of reasoning is not helpful to the article. That doesn't seem very fair. Don't Wikipedia policies require editors to assume good faith? What if somebody posts that position here with a really good argument?
See the following links, all of which are to discussions about this very question over time. If any novel argument is proposed, it has already been made, responded to and failed to convince anyone. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28] But what if I find a large number of very reliable sources all claiming that Nazism is left-wing?
Then you will be more than welcome to show them to us, so that we can see that they are very reliable and that they assert that Nazism is a left-wing ideology. If they are, then we will change the article. |
![]() | Nazism is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive. | ||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
Current status: Former featured article candidate |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | Nazism is a right-wing ideology. The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a right-wing ideology and not a left-wing one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.Please do not request that "right-wing" be changed to "left-wing"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so. |
![]() | "Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party. Per our policy, WP:COMMONNAME, English Wikipedia uses the common name in English for the titles of our articles, and in most references to that subject. Thus "Nazi Party" and "Nazism" are the names of our articles on those subjects, and in most instances the National Socialist German Workers Party is referred to as the Nazi Party, but occasionally, to avoid repetition, by the full English-language name, or by its German acronym, NSDAP.Please do not request that the name of this article be changed, such requests are routinely turned down. |
![]() | Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org |
Index 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 |
This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 3 sections are present. |
Nazis were not right leaning
[edit]This is an encyclopedia, go learn about history by reading the article, the FAQ and the references |
---|
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
It's literally in the name: national SOCIALIST party. The nazis were not right leaning at all! They were socialist, which would be left winged. 2601:CE:8200:4960:6952:D1:BFF4:F863 (talk) 00:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
|
Hermann Göring has an RfC
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png)
Hermann Göring has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emiya1980 (talk) 02:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Picture missing from article
[edit]I stumbled across this article and noticed that when you hover over Nazism the picture of the Nazi flag is missing (it's present in the series of Nazism, but not for the article itself).
Is it okay if I add it?
P.S. I deeply apologize if this has already been discussed here, I currently don't see any mentions of it. Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is there in desktop view in the sidebar link spam banner..... I have added an option for mobile view. At the bottom of every page you'll see an option for mobile/desktop view.... is this the thing you had in mind? Moxy🍁 20:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you, it works now. Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia controversial topics
- Wikipedia objectionable content
- Old requests for peer review
- C-Class vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia vital articles in Society and social sciences
- C-Class level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Society and social sciences
- C-Class vital articles in Society and social sciences
- C-Class politics articles
- High-importance politics articles
- WikiProject Politics articles
- C-Class LGBT articles
- WikiProject LGBT studies articles
- C-Class Jewish history-related articles
- High-importance Jewish history-related articles
- WikiProject Jewish history articles
- C-Class Germany articles
- Top-importance Germany articles
- WikiProject Germany articles
- C-Class Philosophy articles
- Mid-importance Philosophy articles
- C-Class social and political philosophy articles
- Mid-importance social and political philosophy articles
- Social and political philosophy task force articles