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Good, Moral, Ethics and Karma[edit]

These are not the same. For example there is the mess in households of impoverished Brahmans. In the West a clean house is connected to Good and Moral, but this does not apply to all movements within Hinduism/Buddism. An impoverished priest or land-owner may not clean even if this causes him to endure disease and vermin, as doing the deed of cleaning presumably causes bad karma to members of his caste. Notoriously a toilet infested with maggots may be preferred over bad karma. Karma tends to a strict role model, confined to serve the self in presumed next life. It may lead to decisions detrimental to the current and detrimental to the lives of many. From western point of view such decisions appear inconvenient, inappropriate and are hard to explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.83.108.100 (talk) 10:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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You said "actions that are performed,arise,or oroginate without any bad intent are considered non existent in karmic impact or neutral " but actions with good intent can have the effect of good Karma so it is "actions without intent" good and bad that are neutral in karmic influence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boutarfa Nafia (talk • contribs) 21:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From a Buddhist perspective, the generalization that "intent" is required does not seem to be correct. Many Buddhist writers emphasize the the role of "Store Conciousness" (a part of mind) where healthy and unhealthy seeds that produce particular actions/thoughts are nurtured (or not). Then, when the conditioned stimulus or "hook" occurs, the person responds automatically/habitually without (at least) immediate awareness.

See for example:

1) Zen Lineage: Understanding our Mind: 51 Verses on Buddhist Psychology by Thich Nhat Hahn. "Part 1" pp. 23 ff, and particularly "Habit Energies" pp. 49-52.

2) Tibetan Lineage: Wake up to Your Life by Ken Mcleod, "Working with Reactive Emotions", pp. 83-88. Geocmoore (talk) 16:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Karmatically, it is the word that is used to say 'Shawn is wrong' Bluebxrrii (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Schazjmd (talk) 19:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Karma not part of Taoism[edit]

I was quite shocked that there is this whole hijack of Taoism being equivocated with Karma. It is very very much NOT part of Taoism. Taoism is much more about naturalism (unless you include some of the neo-Taoism that even includes Alchemy) than anything. The base of Taoism (the way of mind/experience) has absolutely nothing to do with resulting accumulation of plus points or minus points for you. Taoism doesn't even have concepts like souls or afterlife. It deals with the experience one has in one life and in current dealings. Though the Chinese culture, of which Taoism arises has many folklore regarding ghosts and ghouls, Taoism itself is a teaching of recognition of what patterns are there in life and nature.

Find me one verse in the Tao Te Ching that refers to ghosts or to karma. Find me one verse in the Ling Shu regarding ghosts or karma.

Please try to keep information on Wikipedia clean from 'assumptions'. Just because nobody calls you out on assumptions about ancient texts and infusion of western ideas into eastern philosophy, doesn't mean you are right. Maddehaan (talk) 20:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That content is primarily sourced to Livia Kohn's paper, "Steal Holy Food and Come Back as a Viper: Conceptions of Karma and Rebirth in Medieval Daoism". Schazjmd (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]