Talk:Colchester County

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Delete?

142.177.41.88 23:09 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)I'm artson, the editor for http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/Canada/Nova_Scotia and I wrote the bulk of this for DMOZ, or copied it from the Provincial Archives (in the public domain), then entered it here. Use it at will.

Also note that I wrote the other county descriptions for Nova Scotia in the same manner.

Also please note that the Open Directory Project asserts a copyright for anything written by one of their editors, but as the material is from the public domain in Canada (and modified by me), I can hardly see how they may do that. Sue the original publisher of the Provincial Archives in Nova Scotia, Canada maybe? User:Artson

Are you sure that they assert a copyright for anything written by one of their editors? If so, please could you point me to the place where they say that? The licence says that Netscape owns the copyright to the compilation, but I don't think this is quite the same thing. The way in which the articles are organised is something in addition to the articles themselves. Or something like that. On the other hand, if it's true that you've somehow signed away the copyright to the material you contributed, then I don't think we can keep it here... -- Oliver P. 00:26 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Seems to me what the safest thing to do is start with the public domain source again and then modify in a different way than was used for the ODP. Use synonyms, change sentence structure around, that kind of thing. -- ESP 05:35 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Wha...? We've got explicit permission from the author to use it on Wikipedia. Unless the author is lying to us, we can use it on Wikipedia. meta:avoid copyright paranoia. Martin

The point is that the author himself asserted that he might not own the copyright on his own work. (See his third paragraph above.) The relevant question is whether or not we have permission from the copyright holder, not whether or not we have permission from the author. I suspect that in this case they're one and the same, and this is all a big misunderstanding, but since it was the author himself that brought up the assertion that they might not be, I'm not sure we should just dismiss it. -- Uncle Oliver 00:57 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

This is extremely amusing and kind of disconcerting. They are both open content licenses, and their intent (as with the NPL/MPL/GPL) was that they be compatible. I think the author is wrong. He owns the copyright to anything which he tangibly produces until he gives it up--which he has, to us. (BTW, IANAL.)

I will read the license. But it looks like nobody is going to delete it. The GFDL like all GNU licenses, I presume, says that if the original copyright holder (which would be him) releases it, it is released. AOL cannot treat his volunteer work as an employer's work.. they just can't. (If you work for DMOZ, and were doing it on their time, that changes the issue.)

Also, I cast my vote for cooperation. We give attribution to FOLDOC when we use it as well as other sources, but in this case, I do not believe it is neccessary to use a copyright notice.

--Sam

psuedolegal@paperlessconscience.com

The EFF would be an excellent consult in this matter as would the FSF.

From Votes for Deletion

Colchester County, Nova Scotia
- Possible copyright infringement. It's the same as text here, which is on the Open Directory Project website and apparently released under the Open Directory License. Which I gather isn't the same as the GFDL. -- Oliver P. 02:08 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Also Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Antigonish County, Nova Scotia, Cape Breton County, Nova Scotia, Cumberland County, Nova Scotia, Digby County, Nova Scotia, Guysborough County, Nova Scotia, Halifax County, Nova Scotia, Hants County, Nova Scotia, Inverness County, Nova Scotia, Kings County, Nova Scotia, Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, Queens County, Nova Scotia, Richmond County, Nova Scotia, Shelburne County, Nova Scotia, Victoria County, Nova Scotia, and Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia - Efghij
  - Couldn't we just comply with their license and add the attribution and link back? OIC - they require a strongly-worded waiver of liability and we don't have that (yet at least). --mav 04:33 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
    - I think that would mean that we could use it, but it wouldn't amount to releasing it under the terms of the GFDL, would it? I think we want as much of our content as possible to be available under the terms of the GFDL. Otherwise things become too confusing! But by the way, I oppose the deletion of Halifax County, Nova Scotia and Hants County, Nova Scotia, as I am counting them as stubs. Just barely. :) -- Oliver P. 04:59 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
      - I think we should have all our text under the GFDL; if we have to pass on various licenses to people who use our content, it will make things very confusing to anyone who wants to use the content (and it would probably be illegal, since the "licensed under the GFDL" footer on each page would no longer be accurate). Anyone object to removing all of those that haven't been turned into stubs (i.e. those that still retain the copyright violation boilerplate)? --Delirium 08:06 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  - Aparantly these were posted by the author (see Talk:Colchester County, Nova Scotia) - Efghij 02:05 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- their author gave an explanation in the talk page of at least Richmond County, Nova Scotia and Colchester County, Nova Scotia. Don't know if it applies to the other ones though. Anthère
  - "I wrote the other county descriptions for Nova Scotia in the same manner". Don't delete. Martin 11:25 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Bible Hill

Change Bible Hill as Incorporated village. see http://www.biblehill.ca/ Bluetooth954 04:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename 2014

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 12:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Colchester County, Nova Scotia → Colchester, Nova Scotia – The name should reflect the single name like Halifax, Nova Scotia ,Queens,Nova Scotia,*Argyle, Nova Scotia,West Hants, Nova Scotia,St. Mary's, Nova Scotia,Guysborough, Nova Scotia,East Hants, Nova Scotiaand Clare, Nova Scotia . User:Easternhfx 20:19, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The single name articles editor is using as examples to try to change the name of this article are not counties but community articles. Colchester County is not a community, it's a county. Cmr08 (talk) 02:43, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Cmr08 - counties are not regional municipalities, naming conventions and also real-world usage are very different.Skookum1 (talk) 02:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Cmr08. Just pointy nominations. -DJSasso (talk) 03:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Cmr08 has it nailed IMO. Regards, Aloha27 (talk) 23:35, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.